But enough about that, shall I get to this chatzy review?
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I've been on this chatzy for about a couple of months and I can probably say its pretty un-friendly. I already knew a considerable amount of people here but the chat regulars never seemed to be very open to newcomers. When I first entered I almost instantly wanted to leave. No greetings I gave were responded to nor anything I said. It was a struggle to get an actual roleplay going since whenever I tried no one was up for it or the people I actually did like were currently in an RP. This chat recently closed for a few days while the admin reworked the rules and when I re-read the new rules, I agree'd with some but others didn't make any sense to me. And that password hint? Honestly didn't make any sense, It took way to long to get an was phrased weirdly. Just because the admin understood it doesn't mean that everyone else does. I feel like this is going to end up killing this chatzy too because it was a really stupid choice on the admins part.
If I was a newcomer I probably wouldn't bother and just find another chatzy.
Anyways onto those rules.
I apologize in advance for the length of this.
- ATTENTION! WE HAVE UPDATED THE RULES. PLEASE READ THEM CAREFULLY AND TAKE THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND EACH ONE OF THEM.
- WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY RULE BREAKERS.
- Welcome to »земята на кисело мляко«!
- This is a Multi-theme Hetalia RP Chat.
- Open room. Expect some explicit themes (e.g. violence & smut)
- -Please Read The Rules-
- • Enter with Human Name & Country.
- • No Fancy Script style.
- • Everyone's welcome in whether it be Nyos/Nans/Fems/2ps.
- ► Hetalia-related OCs allowed, but must fill up this form: [ http://pastebin.com/n4HCtVgd ]
- Then submit it to one of the executives.
- ► We don't reserve characters.
- ► Doubles are allowed as long as they differentiate each other.
- • No Trolls/Godmods/Mary Sues.
- • Avoid triggering topics.
- • No bashing/forcing pairings to others.
- • LISTEN to the executives as we try to keep things nice & smooth.
- ★ Be Respectful & Considerate to other Rpers & Have fun! Enjoy! ★
- ★ Keep OOC at the minimum. *RPING STRONGLY preferred. ★
- ►Consult executives if you've any questions.
- ►Ask Permission for Double-Tabbing & Advertising other chats.
- ►Those who fail to obey the rules will NOT BE TOLERATED & receive a warning ONCE before getting kicked/silenced/banned.
- OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL. PLEASE READ THEM CAREFULLY AND TAKE THEM IN CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.
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- ► Keep the IRL Drama out of RP.
- There are people out there who have screwed you over, people who you have dated, or been angry with. These people might roleplay with you, but unless you have a problem with how they roleplay, or with something else that directly effects roleplay, either shut up and deal, or walk away.
- Do not make your character hate them for no reason, don’t attack them, don’t try to stop them from playing with other people or cause issues because of it. Just stop and breathe. If you can’t handle it leave. Don’t spread gossip, don’t start rumors, don’t be a dick. Things happened, and if you fuck up the good time other people are having because of it, then you’re a dick too.
- ► Show respect to fellow roleplayers.
- For one thing, showing your fellow roleplayers respect can mean the difference between friends, and a room full of enemies. Do not judge people without at least talking to them a little. Everyone thinks their character is the best, the strongest and the one who owns everyone. Consider everyone your equal, or be willing to accept others as better than you, and a whole new world opens up. A lot more people are going to respect you for when you show your prowess with simple roleplaying, instead of trying to bluff your way around saying you are the best of everything.
- One of the big things I see are people who roleplay women being immediately down-classed to “not as good” at fighting. This is why more and more women are playing males; to avoid this kind of annoying stuff. Yeah I know, it seems like another GIRL POWER rant, but people will honestly take well written roleplay posts and disregard them if they realize they are played by a female. I have taken to only playing male characters to avoid this, because I just can’t fight against the stereotypes any longer. If you can find someone who doesn’t reject your fighting posts, or casually handwave their way past them despite playing a female character, you have found a diamond in the rough. Thank them.
- OOC bubbles are a topic that comes up often, and some people don’t do them and that’s fine, but I’d like to take a look at the ideas behind them. When you separate your aimless chatter from roleplay by some sign, you’re showing respect to other roleplayers. It’s like giving someone the right of way, and showing them you see their posts as legitimate. You are pulling yourself out of the way of a roleplay to let the roleplayers enjoy themselves without worrying if what you say was supposed to be a roleplay post or not.
- It also helps keep a roleplay going; if you keep shouting over top of someone trying to make a speech they might become angry or stop. (Your bubbles are a step out of the way shows them you’re trying to whisper a good idea while allowing others to enjoy their roleplay. You’ve gotten out of their way, and they can easier ignore the posts.) This seems silly to think of people performing better because of a couple parenthesis, but just showing them the respect of not getting in the way of roleplay is an amazing confidence boost that makes roleplay seem more legitimate for roleplayers who may be a little more shy, or self-conscious.
- Pay attention to what is said, and “listen” to the mood of the room. It’s not just text on the screen, roleplay has moods. If the roleplay has become serious, or is serious, do not jump in with random joking jokes. Don’t keep laughingly chatting it up, especially with the characters involved, if the mood of their roleplay is serious. It’s rude as hell to be discussing your character’s painful self-awareness of death and have someone joking grab their shoulders and yell “OMG MONKEYS!” It is rude, obnoxious, and will give you a bad name among your roleplaying group. Keep your big yap shut when serious RP starts up, or head for the door.
- Also, don’t let OOC flood out roleplay, if they are slow posters and you’ve managed 2 pages of OOC between posts, it may be time to take it elsewhere. Depends on the roleplayer, a few posts are okay, but if you make their roleplay disappear under the bullshit you aren’t being very mannerly.
- ► What’s the difference between a mod and an admin?
- A Moderator is someone who moderates. They keep things from getting too hectic, and soothe the group issues. They obey the rules set by the higher-ups and make sure other people do too. They tend to focus on one area at a time, or just fill in for whatever needs doing. They are generally the face of the team, and are active and likable.
- Administrators are in full control, they make the rules, and deal with major issues. They are the Owners of a group. If a problem happens with Moderators abusing control, you turn around and look at the Admin to smack them off the Mod Team like an enraged bear. They can be a bit scarier than a Mod, but really that’s just the illusion of power making them seem more than just some dude with a keyboard and an idea. An Admin can also be a Mod, but a Mod is generally not an Admin. They’re the Santa’s Little Helpers to the Admins.
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- LASTLY, Admin's note:
- ► To Moderators:
- I trust that you guys would be very excellent moderators. Always make sure to obey the rules and regulations that I have firmly set up to keep this chat a fun, happy, and safe place for everybody. I trust that you guys will be responsible and surely do your work well. I ask of you not to be biased on who you're telling off, whether it's a good friend or a stranger, if they're doing something wrong, politely tell them off no matter who they are. Do not abuse your power as a moderator, otherwise I will immediately strip you off the team. If things get too messy, don't be afraid to come to me, understand?
- ► To Everybody:
- Welcome to my Hetalia RP Chat!
- » Just a few things I need to say- This is going to be a new beginning, and let's turn the past things behind us and start anew. I ask of you all to read the rules carefully and follow them obediently, please. They are there for a lot of good reasons. We, the executives, are not going to be very tolerant and lax anymore, since some are getting too carried away and using that to their advantage. So, if any of you break any of the rules- you are just going to receive only ONE warning, and that's 'bout it. You're either going to be silenced/kicked/banned depending on how severe the offence you made. Let's not have that, all right?
- » Second, we're going to possibly may or may not get some newcomers in the room- but if we do, please try your best to be welcoming and friendly. Just a simple greeting would make a person feel happy, and not ignored or left out. I'm sure you guys felt something like that before when no one greets you, it's not good, isn't it? So let's not have that happen to others too. If you have problems with social interaction, just at least try. It's not so bad, I promise. You can do it.
- » Lastly, I need to remind you all that this chatroom is mainly a HETALIA ROLEPLAY chatroom, understand? It's nice to have fun OOC chats and all, but it would be BETTER to have roleplay going on as well more often. Let's also try to keep non-hetalia-related discussions out of the chat or at the very minimum thank you- if you need to talk about those stuff, try out the pm system or other contact messaging systems like getting their Skype, or email or something. As well as for, if you got one-on-one convos; such as out of topic stuff or RP Plot discussions with one another- try out the PM system- it surely helps! It also keeps less OOC filling up the chat.
- Anyways, that's about it I think- Let's continue to have fun, and rp!
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- Any other questions? Feel free to send me a message via PM or Skype. I will try my best to come up great solutions for any of your left over concerns if it has not yet been provided by the message above. I'll post them as 'additional topics'.
- If you decided not to follow the rules of this chat or read the messages that I have left for everyone to read, please leave- this is clearly NOT the chatroom for you. We have no place for rule breakers or any people related to such in here. Kindly leave. Thank you. The password is the first word of number four under additional topic number four. This is not a typo. I still advise to read the following topics below. It can be extremely useful.
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- Additional Topic #1:
- "Oh you are not a mod. Why should I listen to you?" It does not matter whoever tells a rule breaker off. They are clearly doing something wrong and they need to be stopped, otherwise they will continue to break them and we're just going to have more problems in the room. Let's not have that please.
- Additional Topic #2:
- For OCs, since we're going to start from a very new beginning. I would like for each one to re-submit your OC biographies, so I could keep track of who has been approved, and who has not. Please fill up the information form provided in the rules. Make sure your OC is well-researched. Thanks.
- Additional Topic #3:
- If you are undecided or indecisive about what character to be in the roleplay at the moment and would like to lurk or stay in the chat as a symbol- then that's just fine with me, as long as you are not flooding the chat with too much OOC. You need to eventually pick a muse to roleplay as. I cannot let you stay in the chat as a symbol the /whole time/ just to chat with friends excessively or fill the chat up with OOC- you can do that via pms or some other messenger, but not here. Be considerate that there's people trying to RP. Thanks.
- Additional Topic #4:
- 'People only rp with their friends. It makes it difficult for newcomers to get into an RP with someone.'
- Most of the people here have troubles interacting with others, especially people who are new to the chat. However, that does NOT give them an excuse to entirely ignore newcomers. You're probably have some trouble trying to socially interact with strangers you don't know so well, or extremely shy or nervous, because you don't know what to expect to them.
- However, I strongly encourage that you should at least /try/! Just try, man. It's not going to hurt you if you do. Heck, let's even do a whole group RP together more often- they're pretty fun once you get into it. But if you're not interested, then you can count yourself out. We're not going to force you into it, but you're always welcome to join in. I encourage a more welcoming atmosphere to the newcomers who have come upon to this group chat. It's true that people tend to only rp with their friends for the most part, but it's still possible to accept more newcomers.
- I mean, we've all began the same way and settled in, right? Don't be afraid to try new things and meet new people- heck, you guys might even grow to become great RP friends!
- For the newcomers:
- #1 Don't rush it. It's going to take a while, especially being new to the chat. Just take it easy, and don't go too wild.
- #2 Don't force people into your plots or pairings.
- #3 Don’t assume relationships. It's annoying to deal with, and it makes people very uncomfortable. You need to check it with the people you're rping first that they're okay with it before you proceed.
- #4 INTERACT. If you go sit in the corner, or sit in a tree, or hide in the rafters or something you’re distancing yourself from the group. You need to be visible, involved, and around for people to react or talk to you. Don’t go quiet, don’t walk off, and especially do not try to make your character unapproachable. You want approachability, because you want people to talk to you. No talky? No RP. Simple.
- #5 Have something going for you that’s unique and interesting. It catches the eye. If you’re boring and similar to everyone else, you’ll be easily looked over. You need to do things, or bring up storylines, or have reactions that get everyone involved or at least seem interesting to explore. Also, you are welcome to join in any group RP themes that we do in the room!
- #6 Don’t force Roleplay styles on others.
- #7 If you say “I’m bored” the room will respond “That’s a lazy loser who won’t start up RP anyone with anyone and expects people to solve all their problems for them. They’re probably a shitty roleplayer with no imagination, and I’ll have to make up everything, and they’ll probably get bored and walk off in the middle of things.” Thus; don’t say “I’m bored.” Just do something about it instead.
- #8 Not getting any attention after repeated tries? Don’t start complaining that no one is talking to you or asking about it, look at what you might be doing wrong. If people aren’t interacting when you have given them ample time, reason, and aren’t ruining a plot already in motion; you more than likely will have something wrong with your character leading people to dislike you. Maybe you’ve got an RP style that isn’t nice to read. Maybe you can’t spell. Maybe you’re a jerk, or boring, or hyper to the point of absurdity. Maybe you’re writing teeny tiny responses among larger ones, or the reverse. Maybe you aren’t reading the mood of the room right and are trying to force something serious to be happy or happy to be serious.
- #9 Know your character. If you’re on an OC in a primarily Canon room people need you to be an EXPERT in the field to even have half a chance of friendliness. Are you roleplaying a little known secondary character? People probably don’t know how to react.
- #10 You are the person asking for roleplay, therefore, you should be the one to compromise. You should change what you do to suit what they want so you can get what you want in return. It’s all about /compromise/ to get to a place where you can both enjoy yourself. If you simply can’t change what you do, then you two are better off not roleplaying together. Respect their wishes, and leave them alone. It’s not the end of the world if one person doesn’t RP with you.
- Any other concerns, newcomers? Feel free to talk to me! I don't bite. I may seem 'intimidating' because I'm the administrator, but really, I'm not, unless you've done something seriously wrong. -v-;
- Additional Topic #5:
- "I want to engage into a RP, but people think asking 'does anyone want to rp?' annoying."
- Unless you kept asking repeatedly that question like every minute or two, then obviously it's going to be annoying. Don't ask people who are already engage or occupied in a roleplay with someone else. You need to check those who are available, and are also seeking roleplay first before asking. Don't forget to always be polite when asking, or else you probably won't get any. If you asked politely a couple of times or at least once, however did not get any responses whether it's a yes or no, then there's definitely a problem that needs to be addressed. Some people are probably not interested, or aren't comfortable, or too shy/nervous to rp with you. You're always welcome to join group rp themes too, just so y'know!
- The password also has to be lowercaps.
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Ah don't even get me started. Since this is so goddamn long I'm going to skip all the basic roleplay chatzy rules and go straight to the one's that I didn't like. If you see something that you would like me to address please leave a comment and I'll get back to you ASAP.
The fancy font? What's wrong with that? I personally think it looks pretty cool but if you see it as a problem I don't know how to help you.
Also why the heck are the mods and admin referred to as "executives" this is a chat room not a job.
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- ► Show respect to fellow roleplayers.
- For one thing, showing your fellow roleplayers respect can mean the difference between friends, and a room full of enemies. Do not judge people without at least talking to them a little. Everyone thinks their character is the best, the strongest and the one who owns everyone. Consider everyone your equal, or be willing to accept others as better than you, and a whole new world opens up. A lot more people are going to respect you for when you show your prowess with simple roleplaying, instead of trying to bluff your way around saying you are the best of everything.
- One of the big things I see are people who roleplay women being immediately down-classed to “not as good” at fighting. This is why more and more women are playing males; to avoid this kind of annoying stuff. Yeah I know, it seems like another GIRL POWER rant, but people will honestly take well written roleplay posts and disregard them if they realize they are played by a female. I have taken to only playing male characters to avoid this, because I just can’t fight against the stereotypes any longer. If you can find someone who doesn’t reject your fighting posts, or casually handwave their way past them despite playing a female character, you have found a diamond in the rough. Thank them."
What? Female roleplayers who RP sparring are "diamonds in the rough"? This in it's entirety doesn't seem like it fits the rules at all. The admin seems like he was just referring to something that personally bugged them but I haven't seen any of that people "ignoring females" roleplays. The first part about "judging" people before you get to know them is something I see a lot in this room. People only pay attention to their friends and its make it's the most unwelcoming place I've ever been too.
" OOC bubbles are a topic that comes up often, and some people don’t do them and that’s fine, but I’d like to take a look at the ideas behind them. When you separate your aimless chatter from roleplay by some sign, you’re showing respect to other roleplayers. It’s like giving someone the right of way, and showing them you see their posts as legitimate. You are pulling yourself out of the way of a roleplay to let the roleplayers enjoy themselves without worrying if what you say was supposed to be a roleplay post or not."
Okay but if we're not supposed to talk a lot OOC how are we supposed to get to know the people we're roleplaying with? Because I haven't seen someone outright roleplaying with a "newbie" so if I can't get to know them I can't RP with them and if I can't RP with them why am I there?
It doesn't make any sense to me, I understand you should RP with who you're comfortable with but please take in to consideration that newcomers most likely won't know anyone and if you don't interact with them they will just leave your chat and find somewhere else and if your response to this is "it's not my job to talk/greet new people" or "its annoying when people try to get attention when they're new" your most likely the problem. If they can't get your attention and they're IGNORED when attempting to RP I highly doubt they're going to stay.
» Second, we're going to possibly may or may not get some newcomers in the room- but if we do, please try your best to be welcoming and friendly. Just a simple greeting would make a person feel happy, and not ignored or left out. I'm sure you guys felt something like that before when no one greets you, it's not good, isn't it? So let's not have that happen to others too. If you have problems with social interaction, just at least try. It's not so bad, I promise. You can do it."
I want to note that this part.
Contradicts
"#8 Not getting any attention after repeated tries? Don’t start complaining that no one is talking to you or asking about it, look at what you might be doing wrong. If people aren’t interacting when you have given them ample time, reason, and aren’t ruining a plot already in motion; you more than likely will have something wrong with your character leading people to dislike you. Maybe you’ve got an RP style that isn’t nice to read. Maybe you can’t spell. Maybe you’re a jerk, or boring, or hyper to the point of absurdity. Maybe you’re writing teeny tiny responses among larger ones, or the reverse. Maybe you aren’t reading the mood of the room right and are trying to force something serious to be happy or happy to be serious."
What? What the hell? It's your fault when people ignore you? like "Hey guys I'm new I hope I can get to know you all!" and you're totally ignored like what kind of option do you have to even express how you RP or what your character is like? Like we are not mind readers. If you can see something that someone else can improve on in there roleplaying skill then tell them. If you think they can't spell or they have bad grammar, tell them. No one is going to know if you keep it to yourself and all you'll be doing is making someone upset. Plus? Someone being "boring" is enough of a reason to ignore them? How the heck do you expect anyone new to join this chat then if you'r only going to pay attention to the people who you think are interesting? Damn...
- Additional Topic #5:
- "I want to engage into a RP, but people think asking 'does anyone want to rp?' annoying."
- Unless you kept asking repeatedly that question like every minute or two, then obviously it's going to be annoying. Don't ask people who are already engage or occupied in a roleplay with someone else. You need to check those who are available, and are also seeking roleplay first before asking. Don't forget to always be polite when asking, or else you probably won't get any. If you asked politely a couple of times or at least once, however did not get any responses whether it's a yes or no, then there's definitely a problem that needs to be addressed. Some people are probably not interested, or aren't comfortable, or too shy/nervous to rp with you. You're always welcome to join group rp themes too, just so y'know!
A problem that's never addressed**
Even if you ask one time people are going to think it's annoying and asking people you don't know directly to RP with you is much harder than it looks.
Honestly I have nothing left to say about this chat.
5/10
Roleplay wise everyone is pretty good. But the unfriendly atmosphere makes me want to punch someone in the face.
Goodluck, here's the link. If you can figure out the annoying password hint then enjoy if it seems like it`s for you. But it`s definitely not for me.
Sorry about the formatting**
